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How Many Vietnam War Veterans Are Still Alive? Separate war. They wouldnt know the truth even if they tripped over it. It would cause great pain to them; reminiscent of what occurred to the family of my namesake, my first cousin Dante Michael Puccetti. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. I believe we were all there doing our duty and deserve to be called a Vietnam Veteran. I have VSM on my DD215 which deleted the AFEM on my DD214. Jorge Otero Barreto. I flew with the 220th Aviation Company (Cat Killers) in 1968. So I was in the Army National Guard during the Iraq War, So I guess I am An Iraq War Veteran. Was in 82nd and served from a firebase up North to near South China Sea down South, remember some names but 53 years. i TO AM A VEITNAM VET. as soon as it was ammo or arms, we were machine gunned where ever we went. It was also projected that, from here, 138,000 Vietnam veterans are expected to die each year. In country Vietnam Vets are the only Vietnam Vets. They are a ten (10), they fought alongside the infantry defending the perimeter. What is the life expectancy of a Vietnam veteran? In my book, they are all Vietnam Vets, just like the guys back home who never went overseas are WWII or WWI veterans. All others should not be accepted to have served either on land or at sea in Vietnam. I would hope they are considered Vietnam combat Vets. As well, those who served in Thailand in late 1973-1975 are often looked down upon as not being real Vietnam Veterans. We are, as we helped conduct many support missions in the region, helped with draw assist during the fall of Cambodia, S. Vietnam and Laos. Porier was firing from the north, while the three Cobras choppers were engaged the sappers trying to kill me. but some men, like myself , were told by their draft board, go to vietnam on your ship. Served until April 28, 1968 !!!!!! A few people were killed. In the article, the writer quotes Patrick S. Brady of Vietnam Veterans of Americas magazine. Presently, I approached the road to the top of PDL hill, and I was thinking what a beautiful day this would have been if this were some other place in some other world. Without a doubt Helicopter Crews are COMBAT VETS, to fly so low & slow over the most hidden turf below.. On landing at LZ Gold March 19, 1967 we lost 6 Hueys and 7 pilots. You go, brother! I asked him to give me his number, he did not put a number on it just that he was Not. Who is the oldest living Vietnam veteran? Eight Vietnam Veterans Die every day. we got one daily the other one weekly. BTW, Marys father was a Marine in Nam and died when she was only a few years old. Antonia is a gifted educator, and she is widely respected within the education community. Im 75 and served in South Vietnam (30 Dec 1967-68) A/504th MP Bn. My whole essence was involved it the quest of one more heartbeat, one more breath, one more gasp of pain averting energy, one moment at a time. I knew that I was gravely wounded, and bullets were kicking up dust clouds as they were landing around my feet. A lot of guys broke out with rashes every time that sprayed for mosquitos, using Melithon, which was every 2 weeks over all Base Camps. And a number of Navy in ships, bombing communist. All the others are Vietnam ERA Vets. I was there in 69-71 also sprayed Im 74, inlisted 1968 spent 2 tours in Vietnam Im now 73, Comments left by my fellow Vietnam vets are very useful. The exact percentage of surviving Vietnam War veterans is not known, but it is estimated to be around 25% of the total number of veterans who served during the war. The amount of compensation a Vietnam War veteran can receive varies depending on their individual circumstances, such as their disability rating and the number of dependents they have. I entered an L shaped ambush. 610,000 figure is more accurate., NYT was referring to VN Era Veterans. I actually vollenteered to go to NAM. I think its just a generalization but should be cleared. Thank you for taking the time to read this. CIB. Kenneth, your definition of combat veteran is so wrong on so many levels that it would be funny if it did not besmirch the service of so many good men, alive and dead. There were 7000 Canadians that joined the US military to fight in Vietnam. Spent a year in training and ended up a buck Sargent airborne ranger. Later, and Welcome Home to all Vietnam Veterans!!! We had a dustoff attached to us. 11B20 and proud of it. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. We need more honest Veterans. My squad leaderSteve Cook wrote, Dont Cry for Us Saigon. He gives stats. How many Vietnam War veterans are still alive 2023? I saw the truck bounce towards the trees. In the first part of the journey the mountain would act as a radio (my lifeline) barrier between Camp Enari and the PDL fortified Ville. I know the difference, do you ? I was drafted in Sep 1966, went to Vietnam Aug 67-Aug 68, and Im 75 until Oct. 7,484 women served in Vietnam, 83.5% being nurses. i spent three years to and fro, with about 2-3 months in vietnam on every trip. When we DEROSed we were given 6-8 pills to continue taking them every week. Approx 58,000 in Vietnam. My sister found enough info to get my brother in laws ship re-classified as a brown water ship and proved he was sent in country by the ships commander (Newport News). We all served in our assigned duties, some bled, and some died. I have had stage III melanoma, stage III squamous cell throat cancer and now stage II bladder cancer. Been there, seen it, did it. In 2019, the most . But Officers do not get CIBs But for those Cav troopers who know I have my Spurs. It was all about teamwork, whether you pulled the trigger or not. if you were effected by the first or second tour, or as i did, three years back and forth , then you were , are are a veteran. I turned left into the open valley dirt road that lead to the OP, crossed the blue line (river or stream on a map) and raced through the dense, triple canopy jungle to the open valley floor. So do Vietnam Veterans have twenty-three more years or only ten until the last man falls? I was thinking that in 10 days I would be on R&R in Taipei, Formosa. He is absolutely obsessed with military and different men who have served, The definitive statistics come from the VAs Million Vietnam Vets database, which will continue until we are all gone. Very helpful for this Viet Nam vet, at 73 and a little long in the tooth I I find that my understanding of the time I spent in Viet Nam comes into sharper focus as time goes by and the reality of what happened and what I did to participate makes me proud especially because I volunteered for Viet Nam at the age of 17. How Many Vietnam Veterans Have Been Affected by Agent Orange? These numbers were not included since these service members were far removed from combat experience and did not spend any amount of time in harms way. As Ive mentioned before, I dont think posing this question was intended to be divisive among veterans, but it has turned out to be. i do not remember the moss but the went on quite a while. Bob, What numbers do the VA have? How many Vietnam veterans are dying each day? I find it best not to remember that time. I have read that One in Seven that went to Vietnam were in actual combat CIB. He objected, and was assigned as an interpreter attached to the American Embassy in Sweden. it is much easier to say who was not. https://www.americanwarlibrary.com/personnel/vietvet.htm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War. wounded evaced) then Am 3/21 196th LIB. I was with the 1st Inf Division from July 67 to June 68 and we received $15 overseas pay and $65 combat pay a month. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. This accurate accounting gives us persepective on the cost of current and future wars. Since the fall of Saigon and Operation Baby Lift occurred in 1975, wouldnt an 18 year old at that time be 64 or 65 today ? I flew several hundred sorties in a gunship. It is an all-too-common misunderstanding that to be affected by Agent Orange you had to have been sprayed, and/or you are required to prove that to the VA. These are numbers never heard before & I would not include those before the advisers were sent over in the early/mid 60s. However, like it or not, the U.S. government makes the final decisions on who is officially considered a war veteran and thats really the way it HAS to be. There is no definitive answer to this question as the number of World War 2 veterans who die each day varies depending on the specific situation. The definition of Combat Veteran is NOT if you have a CIB. Most of those who flew had Air Medals which are a combat medal. 4-39th, 9th Div. Over 8.7 million Americans served in the Armed Forces during the Vietnam era from 1964 to 1973 (1). You may not care but us guys that stepped foot in Nam AND had bullets flying at us, we care, and we are genuine vietnam Combat Vets. You would think the services would know how many were assigned to RVN and direct support of RVN, wouldnt you?? Thank you in advance! As anti-war vet , all these years later, I respect yall and your stories. Nobody can bad-mouth Huey pilots and crews. It was what it was. A cookie set by YouTube to measure bandwidth that determines whether the user gets the new or old player interface. 2010-11-24 14:32:32. We who were in Vietnam know who we are and dont need anyone telling us what they think. I appreciate all the support there and around the world but Vietnam area at Fort Whatever Ohio wasnt Vietnam and no matter how brave the girls in Germany told you you were you were not a Vietnam Vet. We are working on a feature article How Many Of Us Are Still Alive: that will show a complete Actuarial Model that shows the likely number of us still alive (725,000 to 750,000 out of 2.4 million) and the likely progression of our deaths. i sailed with some in vn at the end of the work lives. I have done lots of research, read a bunch of historical history, and met and talked to well over 1000 NAM VETS !!!!! eventually i commented that i had flown into dong ha on resupply missions , having become bored with my mates work on merchant ships that spent long weeks at da nang. Many Vietnam Vets do not even know about the secret operations from Thailand, now declassified, that probably helped save their rears during some of their combat operations. I was on LZ Bayonet during 1970 and experienced many of the things you described. I dont have a CIB to show for it, but I most certainly was in combat. But if the 800,000 number is right then it has to be out of the 9,000,000 and not out of the 2.6 million. How many WWII veterans die each day? Learn something new everyday. We certainly were in close combat often during my tour in 69-70. Great article! They are NOT Veterans. waited and waited for our slot in port. (Mar 1969-Sep 70) 2/23, 196 LIB & 1/23 MP Co, 11 LIB, AMERICAL DIV. Hometown: Detroit, Michigan. All the millions of other Vietnam Era Veterans are Cold War Veterans. It is a deeply troubling statistic and has. Well thank God congress got it right putting the definition into law, otherwise those who served there would not be eligible for many VA benefits, particularly Agent Orange claims. These numbers have come about due to the extensive research of various mortality indexes and sources by the American War Library which concluded that about one-third of those who served in the Vietnam War are still alive today. Granted, most of them were deployed for the durationa WWII vet I knew was gone 4 years without coming back to the states. so in 2190 days.from today, lucky to be a Vietnam veteran alive. so if you wore chinos instead of camo you are not a veteran? There is a bird in India that says Did you Do it? 101st Airborne Division 69-70 Interestingly, the research concludes that Vietnam veterans seem to be dying at a similar rate to World War II veterans. i agree with many who feel that a private who served his time in new jersey is not a vietnam vet. It too bad that guys that never fought think for some reason they deserve credit for being in Vietnam when they werent. . 2 tours I volunteered and my 3rd I re-enlisted. I,m getting older bot I remember combat pay and jump pay were both $55 dollars. He was killed in action just a few months later. My brother was stationed in the Air Force in 1975 and flew missions over Vietnam. I knew place names like War Zone C, Filijo (rubber Plantation), Iron triangle, Bo Lo woods?, I was wounded on the Laos border near a fire base with the 101st. After Tet it was quiet. Not affiliated with any government agencies.All Rights Reserved. The veterans are a very important asset to the country. three years on and off in vietnam . From what my son in law says (Apache gunship pilot) they also flew a tremendous number of combat hours everyday, And I know from what few stories he did tell (hes now deceased) they often had mortar rounds incoming. I have been working with Dr. Mary Lynn Reed, Chair of Math and Statistics at RIT (Rochester Institute of Technology). I recall combat pay (Hazard DutyPay) at $60 dollars a month. Everything slowed down, and I was alone, above my body that was thrown into the dashboard hitting with my left side. Current Status of Unaccounted-for Americans Lost in the Vietnam War. Quite a story. Like you I am sick of ERA Veterans claiming to be in country. So, where is the discrepancy in these numbers? But having a CIB does not exclude or diminish in any way the experiences or accomplishments of others, like you, and the wearer of the badge has no right to judge what any other man faced. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. How many Vietnam Vets die per day? Most likely Les considers those who werent in-country as REMFs. I can assure you there will be those of us alive longer than 10 years from now. I was a merchant marine officer on cargo ships, american export lines, for three years, back and forth to viet nam. More than 3.4 million deployed to Southeast Asia (1) and approximately 2.7 million of those served in the Republic of Vietnam (2). I suppose we were rear echelon, but I dispute anyone calling us REMF. Im glad you made it back! What was the cause of preventable deaths in the Vietnam War? The New York Times estimated that, of the 8.4 million Vietnam veterans who were still alive in 2000, 1.1 million had died. I understand that they only got about 300,000 of us, but that is a huge, decent number, considering how cynical we Nam vets can be about studies. Last I heard the database indicated that the Median Age of Death of Nam vets was reached at least three or four years ago. Smokey Platoon. I served as a Navy Corpsman, Fall of Saigon. I am a Proud US Army Veteran retired in 1984. What percentage of Vietnam vets are still alive? the draft board made that very clear. and for the most part, we had no weapons. It seems to be all about syntax. We all figured it was a Combat death. How about disabled numbers? The VVA Veteran boils it down to a totally different conclusion that the American War Library drew. 240 300 World. it really did not matter, every officer had a masters license. (1st time to operate a river boat 2nd time to evacuate injured Marines. I am a Viet Nam combat veteran. I don't know about you guys, but it kind of gives me the chills. Currently, it is estimated with data provided by the United States Census Bureau, that there about 100,000 Oregon Vietnam era veterans alive today. I started this post a year ago, it was a simple question. Change). That's 390 per day. Im still here after all the BS of AO has really messed up my life with illnesses, surgeries ect since 1975, noting problems while I was in Vietnam in 69, and confirmed. I wonder if I was not Dante- would I have the inspiration to survive? If we arent able to determine WHO is a Vietnam Vet, then how can one determine how many of us are still alive today? Makes it worse, they were all wheelchair bound. Today, the state with highest number of Vietnam veterans is California, with 596,130, followed by Florida with 519,224. even when i went out with the airforce on resupply to fire bases. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. a clerk typist got benefits. According to Department of Veterans Affairs' projections, Vietnam Veteran deaths will hit 103,890 this year, about 285 a day. About the same number of draft dodgers.or so I was told. Vince. There were 7 RoyalThai Air Force bases used during the war, from 1961-1975, three closed between 1972 to 1973. Having studied the war for years, I believe that the correct figure for those on the ground in South Vietnam is 2.6 million. 240,000 survivingAbout 70 million people fought in World War II and, as of 2021, there are still approximately 240,000 surviving veterans in the United States alone. Whether you were sprayed or not makes no difference, and YOU ARE NOT required to prove anything other than being present in Vietnam. Believe it or not, I still have every pay voucher..and in 1967 Hazard Duty Pay was $65. The Vietnam War was the nation's longest and costliest conflict of the Cold War. Do you by chance remember a Jim Blackshear? what i am saying is that there were all kinds of service, and if you think the definition is being in country and being shot at, then i qualify and so did my shipmates. A Vietnam era veteran is certainly not a Veteran of the Vietnam War. It could be a Yard, Don Porier, or a sapper. I went into shock and lost conscienceless. YSC cookie is set by Youtube and is used to track the views of embedded videos on Youtube pages. The 30 September 2007 Veterans Administration estimate places the daily deaths of WWII US veterans at 1,000 per day. 35th CBSG, 315th CAMS Working on C-123,s. I WAS IN THE 85TH ORD COMPANY . No, Wildaboro was gone, and AK-47s and B-40 rockets were sapper armaments Later, I read in a letter that Sp.4 Donnon F. Porier grabbed the M-60 machinegun, risking his life, and ran down the hillside rushing to the ambush site. was i a veteran by the numbers? My brother claims he is a Vietnam veteran. if you slept in the same bed more than 4 nights a week you were a REMF doesnt make you a abad guy but you are a remf. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". Some advisors embassy guards, but all combat units left. How many Canadian WWII veterans are still alive? in any event, i went as soon as i was contacted by the draft board. I am glad that you make Dante, I know the struggle has been long, but the spirit soars and the tale told Live long my brother, None of us are very far away from those days A harrowing experience that can never be diminished by time. Is It Hard To Get Into Kent State University? Findings are made available to the public in an Annual Report. Tough and crazy. best to all. all of the participants in this thread are veterans. (52. years later) All with the 3rd Brigade, 82nd Air Borne Division. How many Vietnam veterans are dying everyday? Almost 1500 died their last day. Jul 1971-19 Dec 1971) 29th CA Co, XXIV Corps (Danang). Our service was diminished while there and continues being disrespected by those who lump all Vietnam-Era vets with those whose lives were on the line. References:https://www.americanwarlibrary.com/personnel/vietvet.htmhttps://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/26/science/how-many-vietnam-veterans-are-still-alive.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War, The Armys FY 2023 budget request is ~$177.5 Billion. Systematically, a surveyor from the Plei Do Lim (PDL) flash Out Post (OP) had too physically exchanged the old for the new code-book and radio frequencies for the facility. Florida Agricultural And Mechanical University, Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis, Massachusetts Institute Of Technology (Mit), Missouri University Of Science And Technology, State University Of New York Health Science Center At Brooklyn, Suny College Of Environmental Science And Forestry, The University Of North Carolina At Charlotte, The University Of Texas Health Science Center At Houston, The University Of Texas Health Science Center At San Antonio, The University Of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center, The University Of Texas Medical Branch At Galveston, The University Of Texas Rio Grande Valley, Uniformed Services University Of The Health Sciences, University At Buffalo Suny School Of Engineering And Applied Sciences, University Of California, Los Angeles (Ucla), University Of Illinois At Urbana Champaign, University Of Maryland Baltimore County (Umbc), University Of Massachusetts Medical School Worcester, University Of Tennessee Health Science Center, University Of Texas Southwestern Medical Center. Vietnam 2/722/73. a few years ago i was flying from rome to possibly germany or holland on the way back to montreal. no disrespect here. September 27, 2022 by Editorial Team. Just a minor clarification, not all of us were on the groundJust being picky. While every GI serving around the world was important to securing our Cold War victory over Communism just as the Vietnam conflict was also, those who served in uniform in the SEA War Theater are the true veterans of the Vietnam War. This was with conversations with them while waiting our turn to be seen in the VA. Phill Coleman, who surfaced in the very early days of the Internet, and has been profiting from veterans (first Vietnam, now all) for years. Though Thailand was not designated a combat zone. The Vietnam Nam Veteran and the Vietnam Era Veteran is defined by law ,, am I correct???? Funny, none of them were called WWII Era Veterans. Serving in combat waters. Nov.62 I got off a PanAm flight at Tan Son Nhut with a US passport, wearing civilian clothes and colorful floral leis around my neck after a stop in Hawaii. Then we went back to the Boonies. Thank you. This battle resulted in the loss of 13 Marines (10 in combat, 3 were left behind and executed by the Khmer Rouge, 2 Navy Corpsmen, and 3 Air Force pilots. but i was happy to serve. they did not get metals. Youll have to look for it, but a long time ago I posted the most recent VA numbers I could find. makes no diff, if you were a grunt or cook. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. I give a silent prayer of thanks for all of you, every time I hear a chopper going by, even now. i have read that only one in seven guys that went to Vietnam, were actually in combat.
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